tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post6216072102236127234..comments2024-03-17T13:31:15.327+05:30Comments on TuLu Research & Studies: 108. Koraga language: A primerRavindra Mundkurhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09073231068374498281noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-75964730328869005282014-06-13T11:53:16.831+05:302014-06-13T11:53:16.831+05:30Most of the Dravidian linguists currently believe ...Most of the Dravidian linguists currently believe that Koraga language is a sub-dialect of Tulu, as also suggested by you. Now, the Koraga language & words are quite similar to Tulu because of the (a) spatial association with the latter as well as (b) adaption/absorption of words due to social domination of the latter. Thus, the Koraga language we find /encounter now has been modified and may not be the original form of that language as it was before Tulu was introduced in this land.<br />My assessment is rather based on the reconstruction of overall cultural /lingual evolution in this land from various strings of clues discussed in some of the Posts herein. I rather consider that tribes like Mansa, Koraga, Munda(la) people (who had their own languages ) dominated this land during different early historical time phases/episodes, before the arrival of Tulu/ Dravida speaking people into the scene.Ravindra Mundkurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09073231068374498281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-55104125545127839322014-06-12T12:55:31.245+05:302014-06-12T12:55:31.245+05:30Please clarify why Koraga is not a dialect of Tulu...Please clarify why Koraga is not a dialect of Tulu. The words you quoted are almost Tulu with a slight difference. ಕೃಷ್ಣಪ್ರಕಾಶ ಬೊಳುಂಬುhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00307257530462722883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-32674262023084424752008-04-27T13:34:00.000+05:302008-04-27T13:34:00.000+05:30You are right! Kavu also means heat.The conversion...You are right! Kavu also means heat.<BR/>The conversion or adaption of the word Kavu(from Koraga) to Kapu (middle to modern Tulu) does not affect your suggestion and implication.Incidentally I did not connect Kavu with Buddhism.<BR/><BR/>Courtesy demands that Comment writers need to generous enough to sign their names.Ravindra Mundkurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09073231068374498281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-12864729137982078962008-04-27T13:11:00.000+05:302008-04-27T13:11:00.000+05:30The exact meaning of'' Kavu'' in Tulu is heating p...The exact meaning of'' Kavu'' in Tulu is heating process for example<BR/>Kori Kavu koripini.Hence your your concept of Kapu in derived from Kavu of Buddhism looks abserd.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-4818549303038087032008-04-16T07:10:00.000+05:302008-04-16T07:10:00.000+05:30Dr Shetty does not classify Koraga in the cited pa...Dr Shetty does not classify Koraga in the cited paper. He opines that it is an independant language in relation to other Dravidian langauges. It is only a preliminary study of Koraga language. <BR/>The 'pre-Tulu/Dravida' inferences were drawn by me.Ravindra Mundkurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09073231068374498281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-73146189388474276472008-04-15T09:05:00.000+05:302008-04-15T09:05:00.000+05:30What is Dr. Ramakrishna Shetty's proposal about Ko...What is Dr. Ramakrishna Shetty's proposal about Koraga language? Does he say Koraga is an independent Dravidian language belonging to SD-II group? The picture I get here is it is a variant of Tulu with a strong pre-Dravidian substrate.Manju Edangamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00474338169829802934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-90817163519500774442008-04-14T13:30:00.000+05:302008-04-14T13:30:00.000+05:30Manju, I am sorry for conveying a wrong impression...Manju, I am sorry for conveying a wrong impression. Dr Ramakrishna Shetty has given only the basic Koraga words . The 'controversial' proposal is entirely mine! He is not to be blamed!<BR/>If we agree that Koragas are part of the 'Early Indian Tribes' that lived and evolved in this land much before the arrival of 800-600 BC immigrants (including Dravidians),then we can expect that Dravidians borrowed many of the words that already existed with the Early Indian Tribes.<BR/>Hard to swallow, in view of our stubborn existing opinions, but the scenario looks quite realistic for me!Ravindra Mundkurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09073231068374498281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-88082076261851866402008-04-13T22:19:00.000+05:302008-04-13T22:19:00.000+05:30I would to replace it with the phrase ‘Early India...<I>I would to replace it with the phrase ‘Early Indian tribes’ to encompass the whole gamut of early settlers in India before 1900-800 BC periods.</I><BR/><BR/>That is certainly better, Ravi! I am all for it. <BR/><BR/>Anything is better than those pathetic categorizations based on pseudo scientific anthropometric studies. People have grown tall and short. People have changed their head shape (even in the last 20-30 years) without any external gene flow but purely because of food habits and geograhpical reasons. And we have categories that is somehow deemed binding forever based on your shape.<BR/><BR/>Regarding, Ramakrishna Shetty's study, Isn't it going to be controversial that fundamental words like avanu, adu are borrows from Koraga languages?<BR/><BR/>what about pakki and dina?Manju Edangamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00474338169829802934noreply@blogger.com