tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post244839254870372594..comments2024-03-17T13:31:15.327+05:30Comments on TuLu Research & Studies: 45. Origin of the word ' Bant 'Ravindra Mundkurhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09073231068374498281noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-42216341113111597222010-11-16T08:49:34.554+05:302010-11-16T08:49:34.554+05:30There are evidences on existence of several ancien...There are evidences on existence of several ancient tribes in India. Most of these tribes had independent languages of their own.Some of these have become extinct or partly absorbed by later dominant languages.<br />If we accept that Ramayana was a very ancient tribal story probably of Austro-Asiatic culture in India, then it seems the languages in use in that period may have been older than the present set of Dravidian languages. <br />We shall discuss some of these ancient/ extinct/absorbed languages like 'Paishachi' in forthcoming posts.Ravindra Mundkurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09073231068374498281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-46227377345925962022010-11-15T19:42:09.181+05:302010-11-15T19:42:09.181+05:30There are evidences of multi lingualism in ancient...There are evidences of multi lingualism in ancient India, also Ramayana of Valmiki saya that Hanuman spoke with Sita in a language other than Sanskrit so that Ravana would not understand.<br />What language it must have been??<br />apart from this, I want to know is whether the 'Vanara' tribe spoke Tulu or Kannada or even Telugu as their mother tongue?<br />Thanks in advance.MNLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-17355644722617399422007-11-05T21:45:00.000+05:302007-11-05T21:45:00.000+05:30Visit http://www.mudaliars.co.nr for the proof of ...Visit <B><A HREF="http://www.mudaliars.co.nr" REL="nofollow"><BR/>http://www.mudaliars.co.nr</A></B> for the proof of <I><B>Scythian origin</B></I> of Mudaliars, Bunts and Nairs.tuluva vellala (bunt mudiraja)https://www.blogger.com/profile/10721034391443798097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-78269037609877995172007-10-13T08:07:00.000+05:302007-10-13T08:07:00.000+05:30I am right now not sure of the date of migration o...I am right now not sure of the date of migration out of Ethiopia. I guess it is around 2000BC,the proclaimed 'bad environment' period that drove many early tribes out.<BR/>What I am convinced is that proto-Tulu tribes had some 'identity' and 'name-tag' right at that time,before migration from Ethiopia.That is to say either (a) proto-Dravidians already had split into proto-Tulu and proto-Tamil sects before migration and/or (b)similar friendly sects adhered together as proto-Dravidians.<BR/>Further, I feel those who came to Tulunad were not just the ruling families.Ruling was never a systematic thing in Tulunad, mostly it was chietainship (Palegar style or 'Guthu' style of landlordship). Munda have been assimilated into Tulu (and possibly other Dravidians also)in number of ways. Munda among Bunts may be only a tip of the iceberg.I have gathered some Munda words in Tulu,shall present later.<BR/>By the by, please cite some of the genome studies in Mundas and Ethiopians for my references.Ravindra Mundkurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09073231068374498281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-75978613767116267782007-10-12T18:17:00.000+05:302007-10-12T18:17:00.000+05:30Just like Munda-s, Ethiopian ancestry of Dravidian...Just like Munda-s, Ethiopian ancestry of Dravidians does not have any genetic support. That is if you talk about Proto-Tuluva-s around 6000BP. Yes, 60-70 thousand years back our ancestors migrated from that region but that is true for all the communities outside Africa. <BR/><BR/>Again, if at all we find any ancestry it should be among ruling classes. Munda Y-chromosome O2a and Ethiopian major Y-chromosome E3b is hardly observed among Dravidians. <BR/><BR/>However, Munda is one of the surnames of Bunt-s. Therefore, Munda and Ethiopian ruling families merging with dominant caste in this region can't be ruled out as long as we have linguistic support for that.Manju Edangamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00474338169829802934noreply@blogger.com