tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post6435266340106780446..comments2024-03-17T13:31:15.327+05:30Comments on TuLu Research & Studies: 233. PanjurliRavindra Mundkurhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09073231068374498281noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-68884669444068999832016-12-26T21:37:28.696+05:302016-12-26T21:37:28.696+05:30Hi can you please explain which is the ideal way t...Hi can you please explain which is the ideal way to place the panjurli daiva sthana..Is it I side the house or is it to be placed in outside house gudi.how this has been decided?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-64192824332896836472016-10-11T12:19:07.428+05:302016-10-11T12:19:07.428+05:30Dear Anonymous (comment Received :9-10-2016)
[Plea...Dear Anonymous (comment Received :9-10-2016)<br />[Please write your name in the comment].<br />Well, your question can be answered in more than one way. But I shall follow a simplistic logical explanation in my reply:<br />The spirit cults like Panjurli are evolved by our ancestors in the early agricultural societies located beside forest areas mainly to protect their crops and their families from predators. They are not considered as part of Shiva-gana o begin with.(Subsequently some people might have considered the spirits as Shiva-ganas)<br />On the other hand, the Vishnu followers adopted the Panjurli/Varaha doctrine as one of the ten incarnations of Vishnu.<br />In the region known as Parashurama Shristi, the worship of Panjurli has been distinct. You can also see evidences of similar cults in other parts of South India as Varaha cult. A river originating in Uttara Kannada Western Ghats (Sahyadri) has been named as Varahi. Probably during Vijayanagar regime (or before)the Varaha cult spread to Andhra also as you can find a temple devoted to Varahaswamy in Tirupati (which as per traditions should be visited before visiting the Lord Venkatesha.<br /><br />Ravindra Mundkurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09073231068374498281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-85067715456173112932016-10-09T19:21:21.634+05:302016-10-09T19:21:21.634+05:30Are all these daivas, being sent by Lord Shiva fro...Are all these daivas, being sent by Lord Shiva from Kailash to maintain law and order in the society ? Are they Shiv Ganas ? Is there power limited to only Parushuram Shrishti, because in rest of India we don't see such kind of tradition.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-51452480018985794522016-03-04T14:54:57.033+05:302016-03-04T14:54:57.033+05:30Panjurli is one of the oldest (ancient) spirit for...Panjurli is one of the oldest (ancient) spirit for worshipped by all/many householders in Tulu Nadu. This also reflects the antiquity of Deity Panjurli. He is considered 'moola daiva' and hence is called as 'Panjurli Ajja' by believers. It appears other spirit forms were added later in the timeline. <br />Varte, Kallurti, Baikadti or any other female divine spirit is worshipped by Tuluvas with same warmth or intensity of feeling but their Bimbas/Masks or Consecrated Stones are usually outside the main 'sana' of Panjurli. <br /> What required is the fervency in our faith to all divine spirits.Ravindra Mundkurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09073231068374498281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-58289169628323423862016-02-21T09:42:15.232+05:302016-02-21T09:42:15.232+05:30An informative article. I have one observation. Da...An informative article. I have one observation. Daiva "Panjurli" is not assistant to any Daivas. In many very old House's(Hale Manetana), Panjurli adores himself as 'Pradhana Daiva" and Jumadi and others are on the next level for various poojas and Vidhi's. <br />Varte: It is an addition and contribution from Darshana Patri's and others. I have great example of our own house, where we had only "Panjurli" as Pradhana Daiva and now Varte also joined recently.Nothing more to say.. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01819713013318555320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-18445997505267173242016-02-16T00:12:30.955+05:302016-02-16T00:12:30.955+05:30Great article......Great article......Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14863189932832075751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-55040411090590246932015-09-21T22:27:53.312+05:302015-09-21T22:27:53.312+05:30Great article, extremely informative!Great article, extremely informative!Dr. Priyanka Shanbhag Shroffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07677625428928148535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-79141928747059662652015-04-14T13:05:58.782+05:302015-04-14T13:05:58.782+05:30Dear Shri Vishwanath and Ravi,
Thanks for your wo...Dear Shri Vishwanath and Ravi,<br /><br />Thanks for your work on historical aspects of Panjurli Daiva. It's very informative. Raghuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05334975947327149561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-64192394877960830752011-12-27T20:06:04.815+05:302011-12-27T20:06:04.815+05:30Dear Dr Ranga Prasad
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Thank you for your ki...Dear Dr Ranga Prasad<br />contd..<br />Thank you for your kind appreciation of our modest efforts.In fact having like minded partners helps a lot in endevours of this kind.While a blogger gets bogged down by mundane miseries, his partners can enthuse him to prod on! It is more like a relay race!<br />Vishwanath takes the credit for pulling me along whenever I get sloppy!<br /><br />We invite appreciative people like you to join your hands with us and contribute posts of your choice, broadly pertaining to the framework and theme of this blog.<br />If you like please email your write-ups and pics to : bmravindra@gmail.comRavindra Mundkurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09073231068374498281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-66035038800467912912011-12-27T17:31:03.320+05:302011-12-27T17:31:03.320+05:30Dr Ranga Prasad,
The cult of Panjurli appears to b...Dr Ranga Prasad,<br />The cult of Panjurli appears to be as old as the beginning of agricultural phase of human civilization,probably it dates back to 3000 BC or older.<br />The cult of Panjurli appears to have been rejuvenated around 4th Century CE during the uprise of Kadamba regime.As you know, Sanskritization was the order of the day at that period.The age old Spirit of Panjurli became Varaha and was moulded as one of the incarnation of Lord Vishnu!<br />Besides, the incidental information suggests that Panjurli was worshipped in female form during the Kadamba regime. It was known as Varahi. One of the rivers flowing in the Banavasi(Kadamba Kingdom)-to Kundapura region was named as Varahi! Further, it appears that the people began to worship Varahi as "Varah(i)ti" . The ti or thi suffix is indicative of female forms, as you know, from examples like gowdti,ullalti, etc.In due course, Varahti became Varti or Varte!<br />So there were two forms(avtars) for the same cult!There were people who worshipped both the forms together.<br />This has lead to the confusion of relationships between the two forms.In my opinion these two should be worshipped as two forms of the same concept as the interrelationship is rather immaterial.Ravindra Mundkurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09073231068374498281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-38354137104631130212011-12-27T17:04:10.248+05:302011-12-27T17:04:10.248+05:30Blitzkrieg,There are some paDdana books describing...Blitzkrieg,There are some paDdana books describing the Panjurli in the Collections Basel Mission Library Mangalore.I am not aware of any analytical works on these.If I get any other references I shall report here in due course.Ravindra Mundkurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09073231068374498281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-36474295665770739212011-12-25T01:13:17.388+05:302011-12-25T01:13:17.388+05:30Dear Mundkur ji,A laudable work on Panjurli, by yo...Dear Mundkur ji,A laudable work on Panjurli, by you & shri.H.Vishwanath ji.<br /><br />Sir,I get two different versions regarding Panjurli and varte, from different people of our Tulu clan settled in Chennai.<br /><br />Certain section say that they are blood relatives like say brother & sister ! and yet other section of people say that they are husband & wife !<br /><br />Which one of either relations stated above seems to be correct as per your perspectives of study? <br /><br />And also,whether the synonym of either Panjurli or Varte or both together is "SATYA DEVATHE"?<br /><br />Sir, could you please throw some light regarding the above specified facts/myths.<br /><br />Warm regards & hats off to you & the other four members of your team, for the untiring efforts in trying to explore the linguistic Tulu.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-7951282202899324652011-12-05T15:46:15.929+05:302011-12-05T15:46:15.929+05:30Great article Ravi Sir. Can you give me some books...Great article Ravi Sir. Can you give me some books name, from which i can read more about these deities?BLITZKRIEGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07303941206585415480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-49575742095380540472011-08-13T08:46:07.719+05:302011-08-13T08:46:07.719+05:30Dear Raghu
Incidentally,Your questions contain the...Dear Raghu<br />Incidentally,Your questions contain the answers.<br />Most of our theologic heritage is based on the renderings of persons who have impersonated or have composed legends ( as PaDdanas or Puranas as the case may be) during the history.If you are an strict theist or total believer in the legends, it is natural that you may encounter such debatable questions. On the other hand if you are an atheist (or partly so) you may find logical answers to such natural queries.<br />In general I avoid providing logical answers to such issues as it may hurt sentiments of strict theists among us.<br />If you promise that you shall not get hurt by rather logical answers my explanation for the issue raised by you is as follows:<br />1.Panjurli (may be under different names) is one of the oldest ancient spirits believed and worshiped by many of the early agricultural civilizations of the world.It might have been adopted by Tulu/Karavali communities.It was later adopted as Varaha/ Varahi avatar by other components of ancient Indian civilization.Basically these are all notions or concepts used as object of worship.Every believer or worshiper in general needs an symbol or idol to concentrate his mind, and this has been the practice since the beginning of civilization.If you believe in Panjurli or Varahi, Varthe or some other divine manifestation the result is the same provided you are able to concentrate you mind on that object faithfully.More advanced thinkers therefore said: One ,many names.<br />2. Kalkuda Kallurti story is relatively recent one, may be 16th Century CE or so, when Baira Kings commissioned the project of carving and installation of One of the Gomata statues in the Karavali. So the element of Kalkuda offering his sister (a relatively recent symbol of Spirit worship) to Panjurli an ancient symbol of spirit worship seems rather anachronous if you think it is a marriage between Panjurli and Varthe.Therefore you can infer it as a transfer or association of Shakti (as you have pointed out).<br />3. The association of Panjurli and Varthe (Kallurti) possibly came into being because of certain believers who worshipped the two Spirits together, during the recent history (some 300-400 years ago).Ravindra Mundkurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09073231068374498281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-87270487076663126922011-08-12T11:27:26.978+05:302011-08-12T11:27:26.978+05:30ಧನ್ಯವಾದಗಳು,
ಕೆಲವೊಬ್ಬರ ಪ್ರಕಾರ ವರ್ತೆ ಮತ್ತು ಪಂಜು...ಧನ್ಯವಾದಗಳು,<br /> ಕೆಲವೊಬ್ಬರ ಪ್ರಕಾರ ವರ್ತೆ ಮತ್ತು ಪಂಜುರ್ಲಿ ಸೋದರ ಸೋದರಿ ಎಂಬುದಾಗಿ ಹೇಳುತ್ತಾರೆ. ಆದರೆ ನಾನು ಪಡೆದ ಕೆಲವೊಂದು ಮಾಹಿತಿಯ ಪ್ರಕಾರ ವರ್ತೆ ಮತ್ತು ಕಲ್ಲುರ್ಟಿ ಒಬ್ಬದೇವಿಯೇ ಆಗಿದ್ದಾಳೆ ಎಂಬುದು. ವರ್ತೆಯೇ ಕಲ್ಲುರ್ಟಿ, ಅವಳೇ ಕಲ್ಕುಡನ ಸೋದರಿ ಎಂಬುದು. ಆದರೆ ಇಲ್ಲಿ ನನಗೆ ಮೂಡಿರುವ ಪ್ರಶ್ನೆ ಎಂದರೆ ಒಂದು ಪಾಡ್ದನದ(ಮುಡಿಪು) ಪ್ರಕಾರ ಕಲ್ಕುಡ ತನ್ನ ಸೋದರಿ ಕಲ್ಲುರ್ಟಿಯನ್ನು ಪಂಜುರ್ಲಿಗೆ ಒಪ್ಪಿಸುತ್ತಾನೆ ಎಂಬುದಾಗಿದೆ. ದಯಮಾಡಿ ಪಂಜುರ್ಲಿ ಮತ್ತು ವರ್ತೆಗೆ ಏನು ಬಾಂದವ್ಯ ಇದೆ ಎಂದು ತಿಳಿಸುವಿರಾ? ನಾನು ತುಳುನಾಡಿನ ಉತ್ತರ ಭಾಗದ ಕುಂದಾಪುರದವನು. ನನಗೆ ಸ್ವಲ್ಪ ಮಟ್ಟಿನ ತುಳು ಭಾಷೆ ತಿಳಿದಿದೆ. ನಾನು ತುಳು ಭಾಷೆಯ ಮುಡಿಪು ಒಂದನ್ನು ಕೇಳಿದಾಗ ಅದರಲ್ಲಿ ವರ್ತೆಯ ಬಗ್ಗೆ ಕಲ್ಕುಡ ತನ್ನ ಸೋದರಿಯನ್ನು ಪಂಜುರ್ಲಿಗೆ ಒಪ್ಪಿಸುತ್ತಾನೆ ಎಂದಿದೆ. ಆದು ಯಾವ ರೀತಿಯಾಗಿ ಎಂಬುದು ನನಗೆ ತಿಳಿದಿಲ್ಲ. ವರ್ತೆಯನ್ನು ವಿವಾಹ ಮಾಡಿ ಕೊಟ್ಟಿದ್ದೊ ಅಥವಾ ಶಕ್ತಿಯಾಗಿ ಕೊಟ್ಟಿದ್ದೊ ಅಥವಾ ಸೋದರಿಯಂತೆ ಕೊಟ್ಟಿದ್ದೋ? ಹೆಚ್ಚು ಪ್ರಚಲಿತದಲ್ಲಿರುವುದು ವರ್ತೆ-ಪಂಜುರ್ಲಿ ಎಂಬುದಾಗಿ. ದಯವಿಟ್ಟು ನನ್ನ ಪ್ರಶ್ನೆಗಳಿಗೆ ಬೇಸಗೊಳ್ಳದೆ ನನ್ನ ನುಮಾನ ಬಗೆಹರಿಸುವುರೆಂದು ಭಾವಿಸಿದ್ದೇನೆ. ನಾನು ದೇವರು ಮತ್ತು ದೈವಗಳ ಬಗ್ಗೆ ತಿಳಿದುಕೊಳ್ಳುವ ಕುತೂಹಲದಿಂದ ಈ ಮೇಲಿನ ಪ್ರಶ್ನೆಗಳನ್ನು ನಿಮ್ಮಲ್ಲಿ ಕೇಳುತ್ತಿದ್ದೇನೆ.. ಇಂತಿ ನಿಮ್ಮ ಉತ್ತರಕ್ಕಾಗಿ ಕಾಯುವ ನಿಮ್ಮ ವಿಶ್ವಾಸಿ : ರಾಘವೇಂದ್ರ ಕೋಟೇಶ್ವರ. raghu.koteshwara05@gmail.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-83178504287104570612011-08-12T07:25:18.313+05:302011-08-12T07:25:18.313+05:30Raghu,As you know, Panjurli and Varte are being wo...Raghu,As you know, Panjurli and Varte are being worshipped together in many households. Varte is considered to represent Kallurti, the sister of Kalkuda. Kalkuda was the sculptor of the statue of Gomateshwar at Venur. According to legends a narrow minded King mutilated Kalkudas arms so that he would not repeat the feat of sculpting some more statues of Gomata!<br />After this event of mutilation Kallurti, Kalkudas sister got wild with anger and cursed the King.<br />People feared the rage of Kallurti even after her death and began to worship her as a Spirit.Ravindra Mundkurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09073231068374498281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-41115961909083715322011-08-10T12:43:37.068+05:302011-08-10T12:43:37.068+05:30Sir i want some information of Panjurli.
1) What ...Sir i want some information of Panjurli. <br />1) What is realationsp between panjurli and Varthe?<br />2) Varthe & Kallurti both r one?<br />3) is Varthe or Kallurti Kalkudas Sister?<br />Plz give info abt theese qustns.<br />my id is : raghu.koteshwara05@gmail.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-89920175500154800192011-03-09T09:30:59.010+05:302011-03-09T09:30:59.010+05:30Good Information, thank you. Panjurli in different...Good Information, thank you. Panjurli in different evolving forms was being worshipped by Kadamba, Chalukya and Vijaynagar Kings through the history, showing the spread of this Panjurli/Varaha cult beyond Tulunadu. It would be an apt topic for studying further various evolutionary forms of this worship.Ravindra Mundkurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09073231068374498281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-842465514699048204.post-67643915877025584682011-03-08T15:07:31.754+05:302011-03-08T15:07:31.754+05:30Its great to know more on 'Panjurli' daiva...Its great to know more on 'Panjurli' daiva as worshipped in Tulunadu or earlier Dakshina Kannada Jilla. In my opinion, one more version of Panjurli daiva can be depicted. In this district, people also call thier dieties as 'Yajamana' daiva and 'Yajamanti' daiva. In Lalita Sahasranama, one of the name to Maa Lalita is 'Yayamana Swaroopini'. Here, Yajamana swaroopini is 'Varahi' the male form of Mata Lalita. Varahi is with borehead with woman body. As I mentioned above, we mean 'Yajanti' daiva is also called 'Chikku', the famale form of daiva. We also have 'Bala Chikku', which relates to 'Bala', the daughter of Mata Lalita. Here, Chikku is Mata Lalita itself.<br />In my opinion, Panjurli or Varahi i.e. varaha roopa and Chikku are male and female form of the same Mata Lalita.krishnamurthy.c@sbi.co.innoreply@blogger.com